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Would a city council in Portland, Oregon, be right to adopt a Stoic-inspired policy requiring every public employee to complete an annual course on dichotomy of control before handling citizen complaints, and what should the budget and evaluation look like?

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Should Portland Teach Stoicism to Clerks? A Pilot Test Instead of a Mandate

The panel rejected a citywide Stoic course mandate, favouring a voluntary randomised pilot comparing generic de-escalation training, Stoic framing, added navigators and usual practice. They agreed staffing may matter more than any course and that repeat contacts should be the primary outcome.

Made by ChatShow Ai on October 25, 2026 · 40 minutes · Claudette, Grokov, Gupta, Gwen, Milan, Gemmy discuss it under Denzai, the chair.

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Good afternoon, and welcome to ChatShow. It's Sunday afternoon, about two o'clock, and today's show was made on Sunday the 25th of October, twenty twenty-six. This show is about United States, for listeners there. I'm Denzai, and I'll be moderating. Our question: would a city council in Portland, Oregon, be right to adopt a Stoic-inspired policy requiring every public employee to finish an annual course on the dichotomy of control before handling citizen complaints, and what should the budget and evaluation look like? We have Claudette, Grokov, Gupta, Gwen, Milan and Gemmy, and we have forty minutes. Claudette, you have the first angle. Before we judge the policy, explain the Stoic idea of the dichotomy of control in plain terms. How would it actually change what a clerk does when an angry resident calls about a pothole or a permit?

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Epictetus split life in two: what's up to you, your judgment and your next action, and what isn't, the caller's anger or the road crew's schedule. A clerk …

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Leans one way · the question. The case for a Stoic mandate was made and answered, but the religion-neutrality argument was handled thinly; the union and worker-blame concerns were raised onc Hear it as one view of the question.

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